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[INTERVIEWS > Nonny De La Pena]

03/31/03

 
Interview with Nonny De La Pena, director of the compelling documentary "The Jaudiced Eye"
Director Nonny de la Pena and Cinematographer Bestor Cram shooting their latest documentary collaboration, Mama/MAMA
 
Filmmaker Nonny De La Pena began her career as a journalist as a CNN intern and later became stringer for Time Magazine and a corresondent for Newsweek Magazine. Deciding to pursue documentary film, Nonny became an Associate Producer for HBO and her first film "Death on the Job" was nominated for an Academy Award. Now a Producer/Director/Writer with her own production company, Pyedog Productions, Nonny continues her tradition of investigative journalism for BBC's Omnibus & Inside Story, A&E's Investigative Reports, HBO's America Undercover and The Discover Channel, among others.
Nonny's most recent and hard hitting documentary "The Jaundiced Eye" chronicles the decade long trials and emotional traumas incurred by a gay Michigan man, Stephen Matthews, and his straight father, Melvin Matthews, who were both wrongfully accused by Stephen's ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend of molesting Stephen's son. "The Jaundiced Eye" is currently screening on the film festivals circuit and is available on home video from Vanguard Cinema.
 
iR: How did "The Jaundiced Eye" begin? How did you find the story?
 
When Stephen lost his appeal --both Stephen and Melvin were sentenced in the first trial and sentenced to 18 to 35 years in jail -- he had to return to Michigan that very same day. Stephen had not told many of his Los Angeles friends of his legal woes and so to many of them it was as if Stephen had just disappeared.
 
About three years later, Stephen had become desperate and he wrote a letter from prison to one of his Los Angeles friends who had become a lawyer begging for help. This friend was taking an evening Spanish class with a friend of mine, and they had planned to have dinner together after class on the day that Stephen's letter arrived. The lawyer told my friend that he was sorry if he wasn't the best company -- the letter had disturbed him greatly. When my friend heard the details, he told the lawyer that I was an investigative journalist and that he should take the story to me. I immediately began researching the case and soon put together a proposal for a film.
 
Fortunately, my producer Amy Sommer saw the value in the project as well and within a few months we had begun principal photography.
 
iR: How did you gain the trust of Stephen and Melvin Matthews, your subjects? They seem incredibly open and committed to the documentary.
 
Stephen and Melvin discussing their ordeal
 
I researched the story thoroughly -- read every scrap of material surrounding the case and investigated every imaginable lead -- so Stephen knew that I had invested time and effort before I came to Michigan. I came to the table fully knowledgeable of his ordeal and without any agendas which I think helped him to open up. At one point during my first research trip to Monroe, before I began filming, someone close to the sheriff's department tipped me off that there was a rumor going around that I was running a porn filmmaking company. I had to write a letter to the sheriff with recommendations from police officers I had worked with in the past on other projects. This "accusation" may have also made him more comfortable with me since I could easily imagine the types of attitudes he confronted as a gay man and a father.
 
Finally, Stephen spent a lot time with myself and my crew and even though he saw that we interacted with respect and as much humor as possible, he sometimes got tired of us hanging around. In fact, a scene that is one of the most insightful in the films depicts Stephen and his father Melvin fighting, illustrating how different the two are and how unlikely it was that they could have acted as partners in crime. It came out of Stephen's frustration with us hanging around all of the time and he didn't have enough energy left to keep his guard up or make a pretense about his relationship with his father. Finally, I believe that my gratitude to everyone who participates in my films comes across and this ultimately heightens the trust.
 
iR: Do you feel that the documentary skews toward Stephen and Melvin's point-of-view? How did they finally react to the finished documentary?
 
After seeing the film, many people tell me that they are shocked that Stephen and Melvin were tried. However, many also tell me that they think the men might be guilty. If everyone felt the same way after seeing the film, I think you could said that I had skewed the story so I feel that I was fair in portraying the type of emotional response that these cases elicit.. Even Stephen and Melvin donıt like parts of the film. The differing reactions the film make me feel that I was objective. Documentary filmmaking is one of the few arenas where disagreement is a compliment.
 
iR: I notice that Stephen's ex-girlfriend's interview is shot in silhouette. How cooperative were the other parties i.e. Stephen's ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend/husband then?
 
It was very, very difficult to get the participation of the boy's side of the family. That interview was shot on our very last day. The voice of the husband actually came from an audio cassette from our first meeting. After that he would not come near me, even dropping his wife off on the corner in freezing weather so we could not speak to him at all. Interestingly, I realized after I met Stephen's son, he did not know the details of the case at all and had no grasp of the factual evidence. One of the most tragic aspects of this case is the number of victims the investigation alone created.
 
iR: How long did it take to complete the entire filming? What format did you shoot the documentary on and what was the process like? How long was post-production?
 
We shot the film over a period of about nine months, during key moments in the case. We used digibeta cameras and shot in widescreen. We also shot in the dead of winter and the heat of summer and I am not exaggerating. It was over a hundred degrees at one point, and around 30 below with wind chill at another. The most amazing day was when the mayflies hatched. It was like a snowstorm of bugs and when you'd run from the car into the hotel, you'd still find them inside your clothes, beneath your shirt, etc. We spent seven weeks on the off-line edit and about another month on other post-production needs, like sound, titling and the on-line.
 
iR: What was the reaction at festivals? Do you feel the reaction differs between more mainstream festivals (like Toronto) and gay and lesbian film festivals?
 
The main difference is size. The gay and lesbian film festivals tend to be a smaller community and that tends to make the reaction somewhat more personal. However, I found that audiences in both types of festivals understood that this was a story that was about civil liberties for all. I think people of all walks of life understand that the application of prejudice over the facts endangers all of us. The support for the film was tremendous.
 
iR: As a filmmaker, are you happy with how the film has been exposed and exhibited? What were your expectations for the documentary, and were they met?
 
The film had a limited theatrical run -- San Francisco, Berkeley, San Jose, Toronto, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Chicago and New York. It aired on the Sundance Channel and has just been released on DVD by Vanguard Cinema whose efforts got it into many of the larger "main stream" retail outlets. We had incredible reviews in the New York Times, Variety, Los Angeles Times and Premiere among others. It has been an independent filmmakers dream and the main reason is because my producer Amy Sommer works so hard and has gotten us involved with such good partners. I feel a great kinship with producers and distributors who refuse to take "no" for an answer ­ this attitude reminds me of my investigative self!!
 
iR: What is the current or upcoming project you are working on?
 
Working with producer Amy Sommer and editor Greg Byers again, we have just finished a new documentary called Mama/M.A.M.A. Our film questions the validity of Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, arguing that in many cases doctors over-medication of infants and over-reliance on lab tests may be the real cause of the childrens' illness rather than abuse by their mothers. www.munchausenmovie.com is the filmıs website for more information.
 

I have also just started a new film on the civil liberties violations that are on the rise under the Bush administration.

 
 
 
For festival screenings and cable showings of "The Jaundiced Eye," check out it's official website:
 
 
"The Jaundiced Eye" is available now on VHS & DVD from Vanguard Cinema:
 
 
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